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`UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
`United States Patent and TrademarkOffice
`Address: COMMISSIONER FOR PATENTS
`P.O. Box 1450
`Alexandria, Virginia 22313-1450
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`17/695,361
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`03/15/2022
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`HIROSHI YAHATA
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`P65860
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`8800
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`GREENBLUM & BERNSTEIN,P.L.C.
`1950 ROLAND CLARKE PLACE
`RESTON, VA 20191
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`TRAN, LIEN THUY
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`ART UNIT
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`1793
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`PAPER NUMBER
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`NOTIFICATION DATE
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`DELIVERY MODE
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`06/27/2023
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`ELECTRONIC
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`Please find below and/or attached an Office communication concerning this application or proceeding.
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`Thetime period for reply, if any, is set in the attached communication.
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`Notice of the Office communication was sent electronically on above-indicated "Notification Date" to the
`following e-mail address(es):
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`gbpatent @ gbpatent.com
`greenblum.bernsteinplc @ gmail.com
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`PTOL-90A (Rev. 04/07)
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`Applicant-InitiatedInterview Summary ‘LIEN T TRAN
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`Application No.
`17/695,361
`Examiner
`LIEN T TRAN
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`Applicant(s)
`YAHATAet al.
`AIA (First Inventor
`to File) Status
`Yes
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`Telephonic
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`[JamesBonnamyAttorney,
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`Date of Interview: 20 June 2023
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`Issues Discussed:
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`35 U.S.C. 101
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`Applicant's representative proposed to amend the claims to overcomethe rejection. The examiner
`indicated that the proposed amendment would not overcomethe rejection.
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`35 U.S.C. 112
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`Applicant's representative proposed to amend the claims to overcomethe rejection. The examiner
`indicated that the proposed amendment would not overcomethe rejection.
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`35 U.S.C. 103
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`Applicant's representative argued the prior art does not teach changing hardness. The examiner
`maintained that hardnessis a sensory attribute that would have been within the determination of one
`skilled in the art. No agreement was reached with respect to the patentability of the claims.
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`/LIEN T TRAN/
`Primary Examiner, Art Unit 1793
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`37 CFR§ 1.2 Businessto be transacted in writing
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`Applicant is reminded that a complete written statement as to the substanceof the interview must be made of record in
`the application file. It is the applicants responsibility to provide the written statement, unless the interview wasinitiated
`by the Examiner and the Examiner hasindicated that a written summarywill be provided. See MPEP 713.04
`Pleasefurther see:
`MPEP 713.04
`Title 37 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) § 1.133 Interviews, paragraph (b)
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`Applicant recordation instructions: The formal written reply to the last Office action must include the substance of the
`interview. (See MPEP section 713.04). If a reply to the last Office action has already been filed, applicant is given a
`non-extendable period of the longer of one monthor thirty days from this interview date, or the mailing date of this
`interview summary form, whichever is later, to file a statement of the substanceofthe interview.
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`Examiner recordation instructions: Examiners must summarize the substanceof any interview of record. A complete
`and proper recordation of the substance of an interview should include the itemslisted in MPEP 713.04 for complete
`and proper recordation including the identification of the general thrust of each argumentor issue discussed, a general
`indication of any other pertinent matters discussed regarding patentability and the general results or outcome of the
`interview, to include an indication as to whether or not agreement was reached on the issuesraised.
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`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`PTOL-413/413b (Rev. Oct. 2019)
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`Interview Summary
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`Paper No. 20230621
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