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`UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
`United States Patent and TrademarkOffice
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`17/050,429
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`10/23/2020
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`AKTHITO KONISHI
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`083710-3191
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`1855
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`McDermott Will and Emery LLP
`The McDermott Building
`500 North Capitol Street, N.W.
`Washington, DC 20001
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`HOFFBERG, ROBERT JOSEPH
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`2835
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`PAPER NUMBER
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`NOTIFICATION DATE
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`DELIVERY MODE
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`11/08/2022
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`ELECTRONIC
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`PTOL-90A (Rev. 04/07)
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`Applicant-InitiatedInterview Summary ROBERT J HOFFBERG
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`Application No.
`17/050,429
`Examiner
`ROBERT J
`HOFFBERG
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`Applicant(s)
`KONISHI et al.
`AIA (First Inventor
`to File) Status
`Yes
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`Telephonic
`Takashi Saito, Reg. No. 69,536 [AttorneyCECC—C“‘C(Cis
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`Date of Interview: 03 November 2022
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`Issues Discussed:
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`35 U.S.C. 103
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`Discussed the combination of Hu (US 8,896,110) and Murakami (US 2020/0024496) references.
`Applicant states that the Hu reference requires curing, whereas the Murakami does not require any
`curing. In the Non-final action dated 9/2/22, the Examiner proposed substituting the Thermal Interface
`Material (TIM) of Murakami reference for that of the Hu reference. Therefore when substituting TIM of
`Murakamifor that the Hu the substituted TIM of Murakami including the method that TIM is applied is
`applicable (which doesnotinclude curing).
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`However the thicknessofthe film 14 of the instant application (100 micrometer compressed to 50
`micrometer, see para. [0016)]) is different from the Murakami (100 nanometer to 15 micrometer, see
`abstract) and heat conductive material 15 of the instant application (2 micrometer, see para. [0018])
`compared to Murakami (between 0.1 micrometer to 20 micrometer, see para. [0054])
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`/ROBERT J HOFFBERG/
`Primary Examiner, Art Unit 2835
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`37 CFR§ 1.2 Businessto be transacted in writing
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`Applicant is reminded that a complete written statement as to the substanceof the interview must be made of record in
`the application file. It is the applicants responsibility to provide the written statement, unless the interview wasinitiated
`by the Examiner and the Examiner hasindicated that a written summarywill be provided. See MPEP 713.04
`Pleasefurther see:
`MPEP 713.04
`Title 37 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) § 1.133 Interviews, paragraph (b)
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`Applicant recordation instructions: The formal written reply to the last Office action must include the substance of the
`interview. (See MPEP section 713.04). If a reply to the last Office action has already been filed, applicant is given a
`non-extendable period of the longer of one monthor thirty days from this interview date, or the mailing date of this
`interview summary form, whichever is later, to file a statement of the substanceofthe interview.
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`Examiner recordation instructions: Examiners must summarize the substanceof any interview of record. A complete
`and proper recordation of the substance of an interview should include the itemslisted in MPEP 713.04 for complete
`and proper recordation including the identification of the general thrust of each argumentor issue discussed, a general
`indication of any other pertinent matters discussed regarding patentability and the general results or outcome of the
`interview, to include an indication as to whether or not agreement was reached on the issuesraised.
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`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`PTOL-413/413b (Rev. Oct. 2019)
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`Interview Summary
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`Paper No. 20221103
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