Examiner-InitiatedInterview Summary ROBERT J HOFFBERG
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`Application No.
`17/050,429
`Examiner
`ROBERT J
`HOFFBERG
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`Applicant(s)
`KONISHI et al.
`AIA (First Inventor
`to File) Status
`Yes
`
`Telephonic
`Takashi Saito, Reg. No. 69,536 [AttorneyCECC—C“‘C(Cis
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`
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`Date of Interview: 08 March 2023
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`Issues Discussed:
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`35 U.S.C. 112
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`Paragraph [0017] of the specification teaches "[p]yrolytic graphite-based carbon is excellent in thermal
`conductivity in a plane direction. Therefore, even if heat generation of heat generating component12 is
`localized, generated heat can be quickly diffused in the plane direction and transmitted to pressing
`component 13. Thus, the heat can beefficiently dissipated." Based upon this description and the figures
`of the application, how does one knowthat the pyrolytic graphite-based carbon is oriented horizontally
`so that the in-plane direction of the film is orientedin thefirst direction that faces the heat generating
`component, rather than being oriented as shownin the Taira reference usedin the final office action
`dated 12/6/22?
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`35 U.S.C. 102
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`The Taira reference meets the limitation of "the graphite-based carbon film has a thermal conductivity in
`a plane direction ofthe first surface, and the thermal conductivity in the plane direction ofthe first surface
`is larger than a thermal conductivity in a direction perpendicularto the first surface" because the upper
`and lower horizontal portions of "c"-shaped graphite-based carbon film has this thermal conductivity
`property in upper and lowerhorizontal portions ofthe film.
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`35 U.S.C. 103
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`Discussed figs 1(b) and 2(c) [depicting horizontal orientedfillers] and 1(c) and 2(d) [depicting vertically
`orientedfillers] of Murakami (US 2020/0024496) reference. Would having a horizontally oriented
`graphite film be an obvious variant of the vertically oriented graphite film of Taira reference?
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`/ROBERT J HOFFBERG/
`Primary Examiner, Art Unit 2835
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`37 CFR§ 1.2 Businessto be transacted in writing
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`Applicant is reminded that a complete written statement as to the substanceof the interview must be made of record in
`the application file. It is the applicants responsibility to provide the written statement, unless the interview wasinitiated
`by the Examiner and the Examiner hasindicated that a written summarywill be provided. See MPEP 713.04
`Pleasefurther see:
`MPEP 713.04
`Title 37 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) § 1.133 Interviews, paragraph (b)
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`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`PTOL-413/413b (Rev. Oct. 2019)
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`Interview Summary
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`Paper No. 20230308
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`Application No.
`Applicant(s)
`17/050,429
`KONISHI etal.
`i
`AIA (First |
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`vge
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`Examiner-InitiatedInterview Summary|"x8miner eee
`ROBERT J
`to File) Status
`HOFFBERG
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`Yes
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`Applicant recordation instructions: It is not necessary for applicant to provide a separate record of the substanceof interview.
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`Examiner recordation instructions: Examiners must summarize the substanceof any interview of record. A complete
`and proper recordation of the substance of an interview should include the itemslisted in MPEP 713.04 for complete
`and proper recordation including the identification of the general thrust of each argumentor issue discussed, a general
`indication of any other pertinent matters discussed regarding patentability and the general results or outcome of the
`interview, to include an indication as to whether or not agreement was reached on the issuesraised.
`
`U.S. Patent and Trademark Office
`PTOL-413/413b (Rev. Oct. 2019)
`
`Interview Summary
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`Paper No. 20230308
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